| Pooling, Aggregation, and Integration: strategies for small issuers to increase their volume |
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| Moderator: Mary Tingerthal Senior Vice President, Capital Markets, Community Reinvestment Fund |
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Kirsten: this is our last panel of the day. I know that you are not all engaged in pooling or aggregating loans. This panel will help you think about the capital markets. I want to introduce Mary Tingerthal. Mary knows the capital markets from the private and public side. Mary: our topic is a bit different from what we've talked about so far today. We will talk about strategies to increase volume but that's not all what we are going to talk about. Community development organizations have a desire to get more money into their communities for a lot of reasons. The thing that brings us together is to increase the amount of impact we have in our community. We are united by wanting to bring more money to the community and making a difference in our community. This morning your heard about collaborations around different topics. When you voted you said it was valuable to collaborate around administration, technology and market research. This panel is about collaborating around finances. This is about pooling or aggregating financial resources. The housing partnership network created a collaboration around financial tools. This is a collaborative model for raising corporate debt to a truly large scale pooling opportunity. Each panelist will talk about what made them do it. What made them go to a new model? What did they do? What did they accomplish? What is better now? What were their lessons learned? What's next? We are going to do a few questions with the voting tool? 1. Are you a CDFI or CBO involved in lending and/or investing? Just about 50/50.
2. What is your primary area of lending/investing? Housing is the most. What are the others? Comprehensive. CDFI.
3. Have you ever been involved in a transaction to pool or aggregate loans/investments or selling loans to a pooler? A fair amount that have completed at least one.
4. What is the greatest obstacle you’ve experienced or anticipate with pooling transactions: Non-conforming loans couldn't be pooled and a large group that wants to know more.
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| Lori Scott CIP Program Manager, Calvert Foundation • download ppt presentation |
This is a major breakthrough in community investment. What is unique about the Calvert Foundation compared to others is that we are a retail operation. We've now registered in 48 states so we can take investors from every state including non-accredited investors. Certain investments aren't available to non-accredited investors. We're trying to create a new path for community investment. The challenges we're facing right now fit into the infrastructure category. Both internal and external infrastructure. We're growing and we have more money to place in communities. We're looking for new investment opportunities so that we can grow. Like many other non-profits we are raising the equity to support the debt we are carrying.
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| Nancy Straw President, West Central Initiative • download ppt presentation |
We've increased the number of manufacturing jobs in our area significantly.
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| John McCarthy Executive Vice President, Community Preservation Corporation • download ppt presentation |
We have a revolving credit line of about $300mm. At present we have over $700mm outstanding.
The investors buy 80% of the outstanding balance. They are obligated to buy the future advances too. We retain the 20%.
The banks were extremely focused on cutting costs. They might review us initially but the subsequent pools go faster. We have standard loan documents and all documents are scanned into PDF. We deliver the due diligence files electronically.
This is what the investors see. If you have the printed copy you can see the slide with this heading on it. Tab 7 is always the environmental report. Tab 23 is always pictures. Different investors want to see different combinations of the package. They specify what they want to see and we send them that electronically so they don't even need to come into our office now and look through reams of paper.
If the idea is growth and equity becomes an important part of the equation then things are different. |
| Donald Hinkle-Brown President, Lending & Community Investments, The Reinvestment Fund • download ppt presentation |
The reinvestment fund joined with NCB to do joint fund raising and joint equity raising. DoE offered a large carrot and said anyone could apply within 60 days. There were three categories: public sector, non-profits and JV's. We needed capital both the lend to charter schools and to provide for capital improvements. We manage about $300mm today. We were offering $30mm every 6 months to charter schools. We all knew we were going to compete with each other. We figured we would have a high probability of getting zero if we all submitted proposals. We all decided to work together on this. The people that figured this out were the NCB Development Corporation. A few of those people that did not participate in the collaborative and applied on their own did not get funding.
We covered NY to DC and all the states in between. We received $6.4mm and we raised another $35mm in bank capital and $10mm in subordinate capital.
NCB is the lead operational partner and handles the loan accounting, grants management, custodial and originations. We could not have replicated their capabilities. We were able to get very attractive money. The term piece was up to 15 years. We were even able to fund start up schools. We were also allowed to do lease hold improvement loans. We were able to allow a 1.1 point debt service ratio. We were able to lend out at Tbill + 300basis points. We had a third joint venture partner to assess the schools. There was no standard underwriting boxes. To choose which school to lend to and which not to we created a third partner to go in and evaluate the readiness of the schools.
Portfolio permanence this is not a recyclable pool. We are a regional lender and our lender was a national lender. This was capital available to us on a first come first served basis. There was some sunk costs. This was expensive to build the infrastructure and to develop the systems for the joint venture. If we had known the costs we might have thought about fund raising around this or we might not have put money up.
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| Steven Brookner President & CEO, NCB Development Corporation, FSB • download ppt presentation |
The second is a federally chartered thrift. NCB Development Corporation was created by an act of congress and it is solely focused on community development and community lending. There are about $2b in assets. $300mm in capital. This is as much a mortgage company as anything.
We have been growing capacity and we have a risk adjusted basis that is the best business we've done.
We do a lot of arranged transactions. We use new markets tax credits. CCAP with charter schools and health clinics in California. The investor market isn't deep and we're hitting it over and over again. We're slicing up that capital structure.
The cost of doing deals is tremendous. You will be going to rating agencies and paying them to rate loans. People want to know the strength of the representation of warranties.
We're examining this now. This is new to this sector. Combining equity fund technology with CDO structure. Funding the equity fund and that fund provides the role of the pooler. Because these loans don't fit into the typical category - this allows the fund to securitize those loans and retain the equity piece.
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| Discussion |
Question for John: What about the replicability in the rural markets? We have a reasonably large volume that is flowing throughout the year. Question for John: the 80% that you sell off is equivalent to a BBB rating. We looked at other slices and the amount of subordination is superior to other investment rates. Do the banks have a restriction and are your pools large enough and your fees small enough? These rollover quickly and the banks buy multiple pools. Part of the reason we have met is that there are theoretical limits to the number of loans banks will take onto their balance sheet. Does it make sense to go to a rated transaction to bring other investors into the fold? The need to pool within the CDFI community and whether there are enough loans that are similar?
1. Which of the following models/examples would you be interested in exploring further:
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